20200418-Sarah Westall-Interview with Dr. Joe and Dr. Judy-COVID-19

Sarah Westall

Interview with Judy Mikovits and Joe Nieusma

Judy is credited for saving millions of lives from AIDS and she is very well known as been smeared as a whistleblower.  She is a virologist.

Joe is expert in toxicology.

 -Q: What’s the difference between SARS-COV2 and COVID-19?

Judy: SARS-COV2 is SARS-CoronaVirus2.   It evolves from SARS-COV1 in 2000.   COVID-19 is Coronavirus Infectious Disease-19.   Infection doesn’t equal disease. 

-80-90%  infected with SARS-COV2 have no symptoms thus don’t have the “disease”.   The ones that have the “disease” are the elderly and people with low immunity problem due to high blood pressure, Type I diabetes, heart problems, chronic Lyme disease…..

-Dr. Birx said it you tested positive with COVID-19 virus then you have the disease.   That’s not necessarity so.  Because if you tested positive with HIV virus, you don’t necessarily have AIDS!   You have to have something else going on.   You have to have co-infection, co-mobility that is apparent with 5G technology.   Co-mobility means something that activates the impression and drives that cytokine storm.

Cytokine storm

Diseases such as covid-19 and influenza can be fatal due to an overreaction of the body’s immune system called a cytokine storm.

Cytokines are small proteins released by many different cells in the body, including those of the immune system where they coordinate the body’s response against infection and trigger inflammation. The name ‘cytokine’ is derived from the Greek words for cell (cyto) and movement (kinos).

Sometimes the body’s response to infection can go into overdrive. For example, when SARS -CoV-2 – the virus behind the covid-19 pandemic – enters the lungs, it triggers an immune response, attracting immune cells to the region to attack the virus, resulting in localised inflammation. But in some patients, excessive or uncontrolled levels of cytokines are released which then activate more immune cells, resulting in hyperinflammation. This can seriously harm or even kill the patient.

Cytokine storms are a common complication not only of covid-19 and flu but of other respiratory diseases caused by coronaviruses such as SARS and MERS. They are also associated with non-infectious diseases such as multiple sclerosis and pancreatitis.

The phenomenon became more widely known after the 2005 outbreak of the avian H5N1 influenza virus, also known as “bird flu”, when the high fatality rate was linked to an out-of-control cytokine response.

Cytokine storms might explain why some people have a severe reaction to coronaviruses while others only experience mild symptoms. They could also be the reason why younger people are less affected, as their immune systems are less developed and so produce lower levels of inflammation-driving cytokines.

-If you don’t have the elevated ferritin level in the cytokine storm from the COVID-19 , you don’t have the disease. (11:14)

An elevated serum ferritin test (Ferritin is a protein that contains iron and is the primary form of iron stored inside of cells. The small amount of ferritin that is released and circulates in the blood is a reflection of the total amount of iron stored in the body. )

 This test measures the amount of ferritin in the blood.— which is cheap, readily available and quick — is a good first step for screening for CSS (Cytonkine Storm Syndrome). There are a variety of other tests that can then help confirm or deny the presence of a cytokine storm syndrome. 

CSS is an overly exuberant immune response to a triggering event, frequently certain viral infections, including deadly strains of influenza virus. No one knows why some people — and not others — develop this response; but there are likely host risk factors, including genetic mutations in genes that contribute to a familial form of this disease.

-Judy:  In the US, I believe the numbers of COVID-19 is made to look higher than they are.   But in Wuhan, the numbers are made lower than they are.

-In th US, some of the hospital just are just reporting COVID-19 death for anybody who died.

-Some said CA isn’t that badly infected because last year there was a stealth (14:26) exposure already because there was a lot of traveling between CA and China.   A lot of people probably had it and not tested AND 95%-98% people that are infected will recover.

-Joe  :  I read that in Colorado, 75% of the hospital beds should be full and are not.

-So it all pointed to what is happening is NOT as bad as what they painted in the media.   Maybe they are just trying to kill the economy.   They are playing with numbers and playing with the tests to make this COVID-19 more lethal than what it really is.

There is an emergency room physician in NY that has figured it out.   It’s not viral pneumonia that requires ventilation (供氧)。  What is going on is an attack on red blood cells due to the virus.  That is releasing the iron that’s usually bound up in the heme molecule in the ferritin state.   When that iron gets released the liver tries to stop up all that iron but it’s that iron that makes its way to the lungs.   The iron in the lung creates the inflammation response which is what creates the cytokine storm.   It is mimicking pneumonia but it is not pneumonia.

-The clue that tip off the ER doctor is that the bone marrow is significantly activated and the body is trying to turn out red blood cells which are the tools that gets the oxygen from your lungs to all your tissues and it is the red blood cell that carries that oxygen.   If the iron is released from the red blood cell and the iron goes off to create other havoc in the lungs, the red blood cells can’t carry oxygen and your body is slowly starved of that oxygen that it desperately needs to function.   The body is trying to fight that storm.

-The NY doc is saying the ventilators aren’t the right thing.  Pneumonia isn’t the right thing.  It’s more of an exquisite attack by the virus on the red blood cells that’s killing people.

-There is report saying if the ventilator is used, the hospital gets 35K.  So they make more money if the patient goes on a ventilator than you just use hydrochloric and Quinine (奎寧) deal with it. (17:54)

-Judy: There is a molecule (Interferon Alpha) and immune therapy that existed for 40 years that is the best to prevent the infection from turning into disease. (19:52)  Merck used to make it and they stopped making it.

-Q:  How do we get the Interferon Alpha?    Judy:  Trump has to talk about it like he did with Chloroquine, then maybe Merck or somebody will start making it again.

-Q:   What happened in Wuhan that made the virus there so lethal?  Judy:   It most likely has to do with the iron in the blood that creates the inflammation reaction which attacks the lung. (27:26)

-Joe:  The thing that tips off the NY emergency physician is that the chest X-rays were always bilateral- both lungs were involved.   Pneumonia isn’t always bilateral.  Sometimes you can have it on only one side.   But with COVID-19, it was always both sides.  This said this isn’t pneumonia so that’s what got him thinking about possibly is the iron.

-I think the 5G and the pollution both come into play.   Because if you go back to the basic toxicology, your cells have one bucket of protective stuff.  If you are fighting a viral infection which is taking stuff out of that bucket and then air pollution is taking stuff out of the bucket and 5G is putting that radiation right into your cells and the cells are taking out of that bucket.   If everything is taking stuff out of the bucket, your body is struggling to keep stuff in the bucket.  Your ability to fight is going to be extinguished that much faster.

-One key thing is glyphosate roundup.  The glyphosate round up rubs the body of the key antioxidant to remove those reactive oxygen and nitrogen species that we commonly called free radicals (自由基)。

-Glyphosate destroys glutathione production and replaces your glutathione so weak and that’s worldwide.  That’s processed food. 

-Judy:  The criminal activity in our country is that the farmers markets are closed so we can’t get food that’s non-GMO.

-GMO and the explosion in GMO toxicity contributes heavily to weaken our immune system.  

-It’s not this one virus that our immune system can’t respond to.  It’s any RNA virus.  It’s all of it.

-That NY emergency doctor was sanctioned and moved out of the ICU because he didn’t follow protocol.

-Cannibis is a very valuable therapy for (32:18) dimming the inflammation.  It’s the endocannabinoid system that is your entire dimmer switch on inflammation.   But the government outlawed the cannabis since 1937 and while it holds the patents since 2004.   But government’s cannabis is laced with glyphosate in roundup so you are never going to get the data.  So this is censorship.

-If most people who are infected - and we know this in CA, even those who got the really bad flu last year, if they are given the correct test which is the serology test, the test will indicate whether they have an antibody for COVID-19.    That’s the definition of immunity for vaccinology.   Then if they don’t have the antibody, then you might consider give them a vaccine.  

But if everybody or if most people in CA already have the anti-body, they already created a natural heard immunity.  Those who already have antibodies, especially IGG which can be protective can go back to work.

Those antibodies can be harvested and given -  it’s called intravenous immunoglobulin therapy-  we made that in CA.   Then the healthy and the strong and the immune can go back to work and we can protect the vulnerable.