20200415-Chloroquine Explained, more solutions exist
Sarah Westall interviewed Scientist Max Campie and Dr. Joe Nieusma
Chloroquine Explained, more solutions exist
Joe: It appears that chloroquine, the malaria drug, is treating the coronavirus when in essence it’s really the malaria drug acting as a zinc ion for opening the channels for zinc to get in. Zinc is to inhibit one particular enzyme which creates the replication of the viral genome.
Sarah: Gregory Rigano, Stanford Medical School Advisor came on last night on Tucker Carlson Show said it works 100%! Although nothing works 100%, it looks though it’s very effective.
Joe: One report that compares the S. Korea number with that of Italy. S. Korean doctors see the effectiveness of the chloroquine treatment including decreased fever, improved CT lung images, and more negative viral tests AND no serious adverse effects on the patients getting this treatment. S. Korea is getting VASTLY better number using this treatment than Italy that had no treatment for its patients.
The numbers between the ones where you know they are using chloroquine vs. the patients that are not…. There is a big difference in the health of the population and the speed of the recovery and expunging of the viral load from the bodies- they are coming back negative on the serial testing.
In addition to Chloroquine, some HIV inhibitor are also added to the treatment to take care two different points of attacks. They tried to get virus surrounded from different mechanisms of action.
Sarah: Trump said Chloroquine might work. Why he was hesitant?
Joe: Nothing works 100% so Trump might be saying that to protect himself and to be on the conservative side.
In all governmental relations, you never waste a crisis. So they wait and see what develops and not tell anybody what’s really going on so they have maximum potential for spin. So they can manipulate it to however they want from the origin and out and beyond. That’s why US didn’t test anybody. By not testing, we really skewed the number coming out of the US. That means none of our numbers are believable or comparable to anyone else in the world.
Controlled activities vs. total controlled activities are two different things. Why do we need a total controlled activities? They are probably doing a trail run on totally controlled activities to see how we take it.
Q: Is there a long-term effects on using Chloroquine?
Joe: I talked to people who use Chloroquine before going into the jungle or places endemic. Chloroquine can cause hallucinations in some but that wasn’t long term. It is still better than getting malaria or coronavirus that can kill you.
Max: When British went to India in 1858, they used Quinine (奎寧) that is a derivative of Chloroquine.
Q: What about preventive measures?
Joe: C60 kills all oxidative stress. By doing so, it takes the load off your body’s immune system so it can go fight other things like Coronavirus.
Sarah (on sound frequency treatment): Your whole DNA has a different…. your protein in the DNA has a different frequency, so it’s a mathematical matrix. Your DNA through you talking is a mathematical frequency. If you have a frequency that doesn’t belong there like a coronavirus protein frequency that doesn’t belong there, it shows. That’s how you know you have coronavirus.
Joe: A lot of people that suspect they have Coronavirus because they have the cough, running nose, sinus…. But one very important sign that they forget about is “shortness of breath”. No shortness of breath? No Coronavirus!
Most viruses are heat intolerant and fragile. You just have to get the temperature up a few degrees higher than your normal body temperature. So don’t kill your fever right away let the fever run for a while.
They’ve learned the coronavirus dies very nicely about 130F. So get into sauna is a good idea. If no sauna is available, you can breathe gently from your hairdryer for a few minutes as long you can tolerate and do it few times a day. Coronavirus lives where it’s cooler in your sinuses and if you can heat that area up, you can get rid of them. You can do that with a flu virus too. (43:02)
Max: Your sinus and throat are the coolest areas in your body because of the exchange of air and that’s where the virus hang out because of the cool atmosphere.
Q: So where are we going with this virus? How long it will be here?
Joe: I think you will see the classic spread of virus. You are going to see a lot of people get infected and you are going to see a typical 2-5% death rate (if the infection curve flattens) in the entire population. The high risk group will die if they get it and not treated. Some of the infected people will be carriers, some become reservoirs. It will be just like the SARS, the MERS, the Ebola, the Marburg and any other virus out there.
Once in a while, they will spring up its ugly head and create a panic again. But mostly people are going to be mostly worried about who is the carrier and not food shortage.
Some people will be forever changed. Some people will continue to prepare. Some people will continue to say it’s fake. Some people will be 100% ignorant and expect other people to take care of them when things get ugly.
The turnaround will probably be through most of the summer and into the fall. The new normal for this country- maybe 10-12 weeks from now (3/19/20).
Max: It will run a little bit longer and be a little bit harder on the system because of the big supply chain issue. No manufacturing, no product to turn the wheels to keep the system going.
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